Hi there, how are you? i hope you all are fine..
Today i am going to tell you about a unsolved mystery of a region of people.Though there are many unsolved mysteries but when thinking about particular region of people suddenly Brahui or Brahvi people striking on my mind.Hope you also came here to know about my knowledge of brahui people but if you don't know who are they let me introduce them.When reading this article it will surely make you think more about who are they? and what are they doing there?.
Who are Brahui people?
Brahui people are certain ethnic group of people living mostly in Baluchistan province of Pakistan,cetain regions of Afghanistan and Iran.
The 17th edition of Ethnologue states that there are 4.4million of native speaker of brahui among them 4 millon people living in pakistan.Brahui language is a unique language in pakistan which does not belongs to indo-aryan languages like sindhi,urudu,etc and indo-iranian languages like balochi...
Which language is this?
Brahui is a purely Dravidian one.It belongs to northern dravidan subfamily Kurukh (oreon) and Malta.
What is Dravidian family?
The classification below follows Krishnamurti in grouping South-Central and South Dravidian.
Languages recognized as official languages of India appear here in boldface.
| Dravidian |
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But some people claims that it belongs to Indo-iranian languages.This is because the people living around brohui people are belongs to indo-Iranian languages like balochi.Even they say that brohui people using their words so they belong to indo-iranian language family.This is completely due to the influence of the languages around their like urudu,balochi,sindhi.Many can ask How Brohui is belongs to Dravidan languages family? Though Dravidan languages are only spoken in south india and some parts of south east India.Do you have any proofs?.That is they mystery i am trying to explain.
Three hypothesis about Brohui?
Why Brohui scripts have no influence with Dravidian scripts?
On my view there must be influence of Dravidan scripts in Brohui scripts but, unfortunately the invasion of indo-aryans , indo-iranians and without in touch with other dravidan languages the people are contantly have loosed there language scripts, and other languages have been made an impact on the scripts style of Brahui language.Though the scripts may be different due to the influence of indo aryans and indo iraninan languages but sounds are almost same.
Proofs about Brahui language with other Dravidan languages:
Now a days the Brahui people are managed to write their scripts using Roman based style Brolikva and Arabic.Though the scripts may be differ but the sounds are almost same.The words that Brahui people used to describe something is also used in other Dravidian languages like Kannada,Telugu,Tamil,malayalam.....
Though i had a chance to chat with a Brahui person Mr.Nisar jan Brohi, i asked him to say some words in Brahui.He mentioned somewords like kud,kudo in which kud means nest(home) of cock hensand kudo means nest(home) for all birds.On my knowledge in tamil koodu is a word which means the nest(home) for hens and bird here we take this as a proof.
Have you ever heard a kanada and telugu devotional song? if you heard it then you hear a Brahui song of Alim Maroor Brahvi the sounds are same.
The above words are Brahui and Kanada both are with same sounds.In this time i want to say something special about Brahui language,Usually in English we use the word 'ing' for describing continuous work but i think these words are actually borrowed from Brohui language because these people uses these words for there daily routine activities like banning,khaaching,inning...and also staar;star day;day..remember that the worlds oldest civilisation indus valley civilisation is located near to the Brohui region.
This is actual method of derivation of Dravidian scripts.
In this about picture you can see the common words in Tamil-Brohui,Tamil-Finnish describe the same thing are you surprised.Now i can tell you another mystery How the words are same describe same thing?.
You can tell Brohui and Tamil are in Asia so it have chances to spread ok if we accept this for this cause.Then you say how Tamil and Finnish words are same? though Finnish is largely spoken in Finland located in Europe, the researchers found that Finnish is purely different from Indo-European languages,Indo-Aryan languages,Indo-Iranian languages.But they don't say it does not belongs to Dravidian languages because they don't want to show them as Dravidian s. Even though the Finland is surrounded by Indo-European language speaking people Finnish is unique there like Brahui people in Baluchistan.
You can ask me How you conform Finnish is a Dravidian language by showing some Tamil and Finnish words? ok then see the following picture they are Malayalam words which are same with Finnish
on my way i say Brahui is not only a single Dravidian language located apart from other Dravidian languages but Finnish is also a Dravidian language located apart from other Dravidian languages.Though Brahui is declared as Dravidian language but Finnish is not.Unfortunately Brahui is announced in endangered languages list by UNESCO this is due to lack of education given to them by their government.In my experience if i wrote Brohui it says its a false name you can identify how its in dangerous by this example.
My humble request to Brahui people don't hesitate to chat or speak with other Dravidian s living in other country like India. We are not only Indians and Pakistanis please realise we are more than that,Please learn your own language Don't think other languages are superior than your language, because an experienced man can realize how it is difficult to explain something to others rather than in his own language
Huh!! Finally if you believe Brahui is a Dravidian Language then you also believe Finnish too a Dravidian,don't ask me about the distances between them. Otherwise search for the solution of unsolved mystery of Dravidian civilization like me....
brahui language is similar to tamil . thanks for the post
ReplyDeleteThe historians are fooling the people. First of all one should understand that India before five thousand years was US now. Now let us assume we write history of US thenceforth five hundred years from now. What will be the history. The artefacts will be mostly Indian particularly Tamil with temples Tamil language along with NASA. Now what will be the conclusion? Indians normally don't bury. Hence only the fossils of buried Europeans will be found along with Tamil temples some Gujarat relics. The history will be the US civilisation will be Indian particularly Tamil. This is the case of India before five thousand years. Just as US tolerates everybody India would have tolerated everybody. Only in India we find that one can see nomadic tribes along with palatial buildings. Only in India we can find milk white white gold brown blue and black complexion. This rules out all kinds of invasion but fugitives from the entire world. One of the meaning of Dravida in Sanskrit is Dra meaning flowing running. Dravam in|Sanskrit means liquid. That is why in North India there has been no slavery and Artha Sastra specifically mandates that villages should be occupied only by farmers and to a lesser extent Shudras.Further there is no connection between ethnicity and language. I am reminded of the Book Robinson Crusoe where the explorer trains a islander to speak in English. A peculiar aspect of India is that language and culture was developed by caravan traders with their retinue who have to compulsorily acquaint with large sections of people with the result that Tamil and Apabrahmsa became the Mercantile languages. Further the persons during the course of their extensive interaction unintentionally train people to have mastery over language. This is how Proto Tamil and Apabrahmsa have become local languages. The historians fail to notice one important point the stone engravers of Asokan edicts or cave inscriptions are not masters but trained only in engraving just like COMPOSITORS of printing presses and hence there was always intermingling of words of languages. One has to accept there are two different group if languages based on roots and based on meaning. The more question is whether both groups emerged from Pre Proto Sumerians since for convenience words were grouped under masculine and feminine genders which was the basis of Aryan languages and the other based on meaning. All other theories are humbug
ReplyDeleteThe historians are fooling the people. First of all one should understand that India before five thousand years was US now. Now let us assume we write history of US thenceforth five hundred years from now. What will be the history. The artefacts will be mostly Indian particularly Tamil with temples Tamil language along with NASA. Now what will be the conclusion? Indians normally don't bury. Hence only the fossils of buried Europeans will be found along with Tamil temples some Gujarat relics. The history will be the US civilisation will be Indian particularly Tamil. This is the case of India before five thousand years. Just as US tolerates everybody India would have tolerated everybody. Only in India we find that one can see nomadic tribes along with palatial buildings. Only in India we can find milk white white gold brown blue and black complexion. This rules out all kinds of invasion but fugitives from the entire world. One of the meaning of Dravida in Sanskrit is Dra meaning flowing running. Dravam in|Sanskrit means liquid. That is why in North India there has been no slavery and Artha Sastra specifically mandates that villages should be occupied only by farmers and to a lesser extent Shudras.Further there is no connection between ethnicity and language. I am reminded of the Book Robinson Crusoe where the explorer trains a islander to speak in English. A peculiar aspect of India is that language and culture was developed by caravan traders with their retinue who have to compulsorily acquaint with large sections of people with the result that Tamil and Apabrahmsa became the Mercantile languages. Further the persons during the course of their extensive interaction unintentionally train people to have mastery over language. This is how Proto Tamil and Apabrahmsa have become local languages. The historians fail to notice one important point the stone engravers of Asokan edicts or cave inscriptions are not masters but trained only in engraving just like COMPOSITORS of printing presses and hence there was always intermingling of words of languages. One has to accept there are two different group if languages based on roots and based on meaning. The more question is whether both groups emerged from Pre Proto Sumerians since for convenience words were grouped under masculine and feminine genders which was the basis of Aryan languages and the other based on meaning. All other theories are humbug
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Hey good to see this article, i m a bravi speaking from Balochistan, n i don't knw , i have this feeling which makes me believe tht bravi is a Dravadian language..so i did some simple search on google n found some similar words of bravi with malayam..here r those words
ReplyDeleteIn english Who...Malayalam Aaru...Brahvi...Arra
What..Malayalam enthu...Brahvi Enth
Where...Malayalam Evide..Brahvi Arade
Another thing illa is No in Malayalam..and illay is leave in bravi ( both r for rejection).
We all must unite forever and i advice to my Dravidians dont lose our identity.We have our own history and language please dont forget our identity.
ReplyDeleteThe word Dravidian was not there untile FOURTH CENTURY AD when JAIN CHRONICLES mention establishment of DRAVIDA SANGHA in Madurai and Buddhamithra mention it. In Sanskrit literature Dravida gained prominence only during eight century AD when KUMARILA BHATTA IN VARTHIKA describes the root of the word CHORA an action due to devoid of CHORU ie food and refers ANDHRA DRAVIDA BHASHA and Adhi Sankara refers DRAVIDA SISHU. It is further amusing that RAJATHARANGINI of 110th century AD mentions PANCHA GAUDA AND PANCHA DRAVIDA meaning people of MOUNTAIN ORIGIN and people of PLAINS. The THIRD CENTURY BC Anuradhapuram inscription mentions DAMELA BAHMANA VISHAKA granting donations to Buddhist Sangha. Where is thr question of DRAVIDAN LEGACY?
ReplyDeleteDravida is derived from Tamil.Sanskrit does not have a written inscription until the 1st to 3rd century BC whereas Tamil Brahmi is much older 3000 BC. Then came the Pallava, Vatteluthu and Grantham scripts. Go to Malaysia to discover rock edicts in Pallava and Rencong scripts. You can never find a Sanskrit inscription overseas at least in Ashokan BRAHMI or Kharoshthi or Pali script. The Indus valley civilisation is acclaimed to be of Dravidian origin.The Brahvi language is ample evidence of Dravidars inhabiting Makran valley and the people there tend to show affinity for predominant presence of 'L' and 'M' y-DNA Haplogroup in stark defiance to R1a1 or the Semitic J Y-DNA haplogroup. This civilisation is placed in aceramic Neolithic time period of 7500 years ago.
ReplyDeleteThe word Dravida has not been in vogue till fourth century AD when Jain Acharya Song anandhi established Sangha by name Dravida. How can a word that has no existence in Sanskrit/Tamil/Apabrahmsa till fourth century AD have legitimacy? Sanskrit literature does not know the existence of Tamil and they don't know land route to Srilanka. That is why from Ramayana period Vijaya Kalidasa to King Harsha were fascinated by ship wreck of Srilankan princess. Asokan edicts references to KODA/PADA/KETHALA was twisted out of proportion to arrive at Choda/Pandiya/Kerala. How is that while the words Antiochus/Ptolemy were not mutilated unlike KODA/PADA etc.,It was only after Acharya Simhanandhi used this word it gained wild accrediting by Kumarila Bhatta Acharya Dandi and Adhi Sankara. Even here Dravida referred only Andhra Krishna Godavari basin. Probably the presence of Dravidian element may be due to Chola connection with Brahui since Sibi the progenitor of Cholas could be identified with Sivi and Saibyas and Imperial Cholas extensive expedition to North
ReplyDeleteThe word Dravida has not been in vogue till fourth century AD when Jain Acharya Song anandhi established Sangha by name Dravida. How can a word that has no existence in Sanskrit/Tamil/Apabrahmsa till fourth century AD have legitimacy? Sanskrit literature does not know the existence of Tamil and they don't know land route to Srilanka. That is why from Ramayana period Vijaya Kalidasa to King Harsha were fascinated by ship wreck of Srilankan princess. Asokan edicts references to KODA/PADA/KETHALA was twisted out of proportion to arrive at Choda/Pandiya/Kerala. How is that while the words Antiochus/Ptolemy were not mutilated unlike KODA/PADA etc.,It was only after Acharya Simhanandhi used this word it gained wild accrediting by Kumarila Bhatta Acharya Dandi and Adhi Sankara. Even here Dravida referred only Andhra Krishna Godavari basin. Probably the presence of Dravidian element may be due to Chola connection with Brahui since Sibi the progenitor of Cholas could be identified with Sivi and Saibyas and Imperial Cholas extensive expedition to North
ReplyDeleteWhether the Buddhist Bengali King Vijay Singh of Anga (Bihar) was of Dravidian extraction?
ReplyDeleteAny one can provide with me rock edicts/stone inscriptions in Brahvi written in pre-Islamic Kharoshthi script?
ReplyDeleteThe regions Pancha Gaud (North India) and Pancha Dravida are used since ancient times. The Brahmins of North and south differ in height complexion shape of head etc. Dravidian country accepted caste system totally.
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